However don't be overwhelmed, the good news is that there is only one set up choice in the PW, two in the GW and multiple in SW and LW due to the wider range of shorter shots you play with these clubs. Dont be that person, as how your club interacts with the turf is more vital in wedges than with any other club. Scotty Cameron SS Newport Beach w/ UST Frequency Filter and Rosemark Thorn 1.52 grip. This promotes a lower ball flight and is seen by tour players as being a more accurate shot than having the ball float into the air. 712u 3 Progressive Centre of Gravity - Maintaining the lower CG in the stronger lofts, while raising CG even further in the more lofted clubs. PGA Tour players hit their driver a total of 296.6 yards on average with a carry distance of 284.3 yards according to official 2022 Shotlink data. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. So next time the announcer says that someone is hitting a 5 iron from 223, keep in mind that its mostly conditions, and note where the ball actually carries. Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. It is fun and I find that I usually am scoring better than I would say 90% of the guys I play with now, hitting on average longer than 90% and I realize that that is because shooting in the 90s means in golf you are better than most so above average which unless you played since a teenager and have no other life and want to play 4 to 5 days a week or more that is all you can ask for. The 56 to 62 grooves are wider and shallower for chipping and lob shots. How can that be true. Because of the trends and correlations found in the TrackMan Combine data, it is possible to calculate the proximity to hole for nearly any handicap or approach distance with high confidence. Apex Height 112' 11" Tee and Approach Shots! If it's a really short par 4, I will hit an iron, hybrid, or fairway wood to play to that ideal distance range. Youd be correct and that is why its always best to get fitted and discuss purchases with your pro. Greater distancethe eternal quest for golfers. Looking at how far pros hit their irons is a much easier task these days due to all the tracking technology that exists however it still does not make it an exact science. Titleist 712 CB 4-9, MB PW KBS Tour (HS1X) Copyright 2020 GolfWRX Holdings, LLC. The respective games the AMA and professional golfers play today are two entirely separate entities and should be treated as such. As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph. My SM8 wedges are a few years old and have played over the recommended 75 rounds. Everyone has one. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high Jordan Spieth WITB 2022 (September) GolfWRX As the previous poster said Im 43 so wont be Bubba Watson anytime soon. Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? Thats a course representative of the average golfer? I've always gone with clubs based off of feel and ball flight, not what the numbers say. More photos from the event here. Before it is assumed that the AMA should simply club up, actual distances with each club should be determined. Vokey inspect all wedges individually but do recommend you look to change wedges after 75 rounds in order to keep the spin rate at its optimum. The Fairway Woods Used by the Top 100 PGA Tour Pros, What Irons Do the Pros Use? Yet I hit my driver 230 yards to what they say is average, 214. Im your AMA although Im trending down. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] Have a look at his driver and 6 I have shot level round the chammpionship course on occasion also though. The longest player hits it 320 yards And as it is highly unlikely even the best pros in the world never want to hit their driver as far as they can so it is clearly the club we are going to get the best idea of the maximum distance they hit the ball. TaylorMade Stealth+ 8 w/ PX Handcrafted Prototype EvenFlow Black 65 6.5, TaylorMade SIM ROCKET 14.5 w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 18 Tour Issue w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 3-19 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 4-22 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, Srixon ZX7 6-AW w/ Nippon Modus Tour125 Stiff Launch angle was between 17-22. Jordan Spieth whats in the bag accurate as of the Presidents Cup. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. [/quote] NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! On average pros drive the ball a total of 296.6 yards (yds) according to official PGA Shotlink data. I dont want my Vokeys to look different to the past designs, I barely want them to perform differently either as you want reliability around the greens. G.O.A.T.? Trap draw? That's not Justin, that's Johnny. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. What Determines Driver Distance? WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ But if you take the averages over a season you are going to get more than a good idea of how far the pros are hitting each club. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. 6 0 obj When it comes to looking at how far the pros hit their wedges the stock yardage they hit each club is again obviously only one of the multiple yardages they can hit the most versatile clubs in any players golf bag. You can use our TrackMan Locatortofind your local TrackMan certified and ask for a combine test. Elite level Trackman Golf Coaching from Expert & Award winning coaches, Scott and Jamie Howarth. Although there is a slow trend towards improvement, many in the golf industry wonder why progress has not been faster. Lets go one step further and use the TrackMan Combine data to see what kind of proximity to hole the AMA will be able to achieve at the various approach distances. BALL; Chrome Soft X. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer By Handicap, Age & Swingspeed, Should Your Driver Match Your Woods? 1700 Broadway, Floor 29, New York, NY 10019, 2020 Justin Thomas. Little higher launch, still low spin into the wind, and much easier to swing day in and day out. Now that you guys have more and more data from the combine tests are you going to adjust the hcap chart. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. As club speed increases, those golfers tend to have lower handicaps. In the following table the list shows how far a selection of PGA and LPGA Tour pros hit their 3-wood, 5-wood and hybrid clubs. Many golfers save some money and buy the SM8s and others will upgrade from SM7s to SM9s. Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfequipment/golf-launch-monitor.php, Short hitter compared to the average WRXer. He was also the beneficiary of a grant that afforded him the opportunity to travel and pursue his junior golf career. There are golfers out there who are scratch only hitting the ball 200-250. The plan is to include this type of information within TrackMan University in the future, but that is likely many months away at this point. But the guys with a great wedge and not great length still hack it on tour because they have what matters. By the TrackMan numbers below. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. What Irons Do the Pros Use? Also, the dispersion for misses will be much wider for the AMA than the professional. It's good for some laughs. I don't play professional golf. To fix that we changed to the new wedge with fresh grooves and made it a degree flatter to straighten my flight up. Items sent in without return postage will not be returned. For 6-irons the average is 188 yards, for 7-irons it is 177 yards and 8-irons, 9-irons and pitching wedges go 164, 153 and 141 yards respectively. Open navigation menu. My problem is the amount of power i have and need to work on half wings. That's what I think. To me, working on improving distance happens only after theyve advanced beyond the AMA category. WebReport PP - Read online for free. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] I play off 8 at a championship course 7200 yards in the UK. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. On the LPGA Tour the top women pros carry a 3-wood 195 yards, a 5-wood 185 yards and a 7-wood 174 yards on average. They hit a 3-wood an average carry distance of 249 yds, a 5-wood 235 yds and 3-hybrids 230 yds. WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ Torrey Pines South, huh? Titleist Vokey SM9 Wedge Review - Golfalot My hunch its even bigger for AFA vs AMA? beginer level female golfer how to to benefit ths..is this correct this tracker.. Love all of this data and seeing exactly what the correlation is between the data and player performance! Carry Distance 302.9 Add Driving Distance by Analyzing the Worlds Longest Driver! Justin credits his success on the PGA TOUR to a childhood full of direction, support, and love. Launch Angle 11.28 X-Forged UT (#3- 21)- DG X700 any 7 iron data ? There is nothing worse than getting the club stuck in the ground at impact. [/color] The first chart, with the club speed distribution, is that only for hcp 14-15 golfers? 2 were over 320. If length was a determing factor for professional status then we'd have the Wedge players tour and not the Long Drivers tour. Either way I don't care. The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021). Top 100 Player Analysis, drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players, How Do Pros Hit the Ball So Far? That smash factor surprises me a bit. Should my ball speed be faster based on the distance Im getting. I've had the privilege of playing with and watching tour players in person, so I know what they're capable of. pleased to hear you are enjoying it now though. On the longest drive, the projected distance(without the slice) was 332 yards. All rights reserved. Hitting long irons or hybrids into all of the par 4s does not set the AMA up for an enjoyable day on the golf course. How many average golfers drive the ball 250 yards and keep it in the fairway? I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Srixon WG-706 56 w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S Circa62, Tiger also ranks 125th on tour in total driving efficiency. Based on the Trackman, the fitter's recommendation was a 910 D3, 7.5 loft, and a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8X. But mostly, when playing for the money, they dont. My average driver distance over 2 full rounds it 223 yards and that includes the one or two bad shots off the box that only goes 100 plus yards just above the red Ts . For example for a 170 yard shot into the green a quick glance at his iron yardages shows he could decide to play either a three-quarter 8-iron or try to hit a 9-iron as far as he can his max distance for that club. [/quote] Callaway XR Pro (20) Diamana White 90X TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley - YouTube 0:00 / 5:10 TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley 158,856 views Feb 26, 2013 See how Almost every post I read on the internet the guys say they are swinging 125 mph. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. Our TrackMan Combine database would contain the answer to those questions, but it would require significant work to pull that information out. As such, this article will focus on the performance of the average male amateur (AMA). [color=#ff0000]I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. It's the short game. By adding 10 yards to every shot hit by the AMA from 160 yards, the percentage of shots that would hit the green increases from 38.5% to 44.0% and the average distance from the target decreases from 71.8 feet to 60.6 feet. That tells Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 85 S, Irons: Callaway Apex Forged (2021) (4-PW) Did your coach share the TrackMan report with you on mytrackman.com ? And it just isnt true.well at least not on average. Justin is that really you?? Your email address will not be published. Mail at your own risk to: Excel Sports Management GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Tuesday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. For example, based on the average club speed of the AMA (93.4 mph) he should be able to hit his driver 255 yards (assuming certain ground conditions). Please have a look at the TrackMan locator at this link; https://mytrackman.com/public/locator, Kind regards Niklas Bergdahl Support Manager. [/quote] Most of my longer clubs only just creep above the 200 yd mark. timestamp='1364355784' post='6704107'] The title would be just as useful as well. A single figure golfer all of his adult life he lives in London and still enjoys playing whenever he can with friends and family. Your link has been automatically embedded. http://web.tigerwoods.com/onTour/seasonStatistics. It's good for some laughs. My home course is around 6200 so I can work around not bombing it off the tee but it is perplexing to me. T 'enG~q/Om\#Q`{ HLRpC45`|NiG*"2agUTeu9d10S8xl?O`,`~ja~=j'(d~e?7UN+&iHPI=8NQQ={"K9R1d"3j$NJd[?@fUM)IxJ)Sn-bcVk7*"d9;&!0tB%=7$W&q&:L^q1|T]6k)SF The previous table looked at the approach distance the AMA will have based on hole length and average drive distance. Pro Modus 3 Tour 105 S, Wedges: Callaway Jaws (54-10S, 58-10S), Titleist Vokey Design SM6 (62-08M) The data has been collected through the TrackMan Combine from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world. Howarth Golf Performance Studio | Facebook Club Head Speed 119.55 How Far Do Pro Golfers Hit Each Club? A 2022 Guide [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] The professionals are going to hit the ball on the screws significantly more often than the AMA. As far as a Trackman goes.I've used it once. Hcap 5 will be around 68. People that dwell on the fact that other people like to know their distances are funny. As for his short irons his 8-iron yardage is 165, he hits his 9-iron 150 yards and his pitching wedge 135 yards on average. While golf has given Justin a career he thoroughly enjoys, he knows the life lessons golf can provide. I think you wish you hit it further. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. I would guess those numbers are pretty much all-out, perfect contact, carry distances. I feel pretty confidant in saying that those aren't his stoc 915 FD I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. Brooks Koepka, winner of the US Open 2017 and 2018 - TrackMan Ive hit greens from 210 out with a 20 degree hybrid. DShawn Johnson 6 Iron Trackman Data - What am I missing? Too delofted? RJ, What was the actual value of swing speed group 115 mph+, since it shows 0%. I would recommend that you go visit a TrackMan certified coach, he/she will be able to help you with your club speed. Anyone remember young Guan the 14 year old at Augusta he was so small he could only drive it 250 but did alright. The 58 is versatile in shot options and with the change of grind from D to M I had an increase in performance. May I ask how many of them have 120 mph swing. [/quote] I think you wish you hit it further. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Blue 7 X, 3-wood: Callaway Rogue ST Max (15 degrees) Congratulations to Justin Thomas, winning the CJ Cup! For more Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. First we have to determine the average length of the par 4s at your course from the different tees available. Driver: Titleist TSi3 (10 degrees) Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X 3-wood: Titleist TSR3 (15 degrees @ 14.25) Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 75 TX Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ [] [/quote] [quote name='swanry30' timestamp='1364407652' post='6707945'] The new Vokey SM9 wedges has a focus on this exact shot by placing weight higher in the toe. Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. I guess that's laughable though, right? Im a 9 handicap wanting to get into the low single digits. Upgraded core technology takes tee-to-green performance to the next level, New face technologies provide more forgiveness and spin consistency, Designed for golfers with more moderate swing speeds, horny mature is having great time in yttaly's casting, dark haired beauty with big natural boobs" jerk off challenge, she knows how to jump up and down on thick cock, 46, 48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60, 62. Jon has proven that he is able to compete at the Mr Vokey has listened and gone on to design a wedge with the feedback of those players in mind. I am disabled now and dont play at all but i had a spinal fusion and two rods put in my back when i was a teenager. Mike Austins Secret Release Move to Multiply Your Clubhead Speed. also his AoD on the stinger. Learn to play your game, but keep pushing yourself where sensible and on the range, and youll enjoy your round more and start playing much more consistent golf. Club Speed 113 mph Ball Speed 166 mph Attack Angle -1 deg Launch Angle 12 deg Spin Rate 2298 rpm |K_ %E_{/{5* Bx2 @ xM6#N Granted, their handicaps are high, but it gives a lot of support to what Mr. Pelz has been telling us all these years. Playing golf as early as two-years-old, Justin learned all aspects of the game. Ball Speed- 176.38 average, 179.45 high The consistency of impact through the sand was staggering, I seemed to take the exact same amount of sand and impact location every time. This analysis seems to be for elite athletes. Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. Check out the actual averages from the PGA Tour for the entire year: Now this is not to say that a tour player cant ramp it up another gear if they felt like showing off. I know a 47 year old who played d1 golf hits nothing but trap draws hits 8 irons 190. Distance is only a big deal to those who don't have it Do you suppose my distance is bs? Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila NV 7-wood: Michael Hopper whats in the bag accurate as of the WM Phoenix Open. If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. How about heading out to Wedgefield in Georgetown, SC? You're delusional if you think any amateur on WRX that claims to have similar numbers to the longer pros thinks they are also as good as a tour pro. While the length of the course is an important factor in scoring, more so is the challenging greens and required approach shots. When I watch professional events I am always taken aback by how high they hit their driver but how low they hit their wedges. What is the speed? But he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. Commented here a while ago Im actually not sure before I used GPS through my mobile whether I hit it further than I do now. Official driving distance is only measured on two holes per round, which means you might get 50-60 shots in a year. Overall I cant fault these wedges for an elite player as we are aware of the slight differences of feel at strike, flight and contact with the ground. [/quote] Thomas, who was born and raised in Goshen, KY, played collegiate golf for the Alabama Crimson Tide. I also play at a local par 3 course which holds the junior par 3 championship and I have shot 7 under around the par 3 course. I often feel articles such as this are skewed. Following 3 Trackman lessons and 4 Trackman practice sessions (and my own research) i have moved my swing path nearly 5 degree in to out. The performance of these wedges really was impressive. Crazy thing is I hit my 3 wood off the tee about 250 yards. Both wedges I could spin and release depending on the swing I put on the shot, I was especially a fan of the lob wedge chip shot which stopped on the second bounce. Mr Vokey has listened and gone on to design a wedge with the feedback of those players in mind. And also wondering how LPGA fits into this chart. also his AoD on the stinger. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Cobra Aerospeed 3W Kai'Li White [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE Mizuno Pro 225 5-GW PX IO It has to do with my ability. any 7 iron data ? It is vital for them to know exactly how far they hit their wedges with a variety of different types of shots because feel is so important from those short distances, especially at the top level of the game, where a yard or two can make the difference between winning or losing a tournament. Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X, 3-wood: Titleist TSR3 (15 degrees @ 14.25) Tiger hits his 3-iron a carry distance of 240 yards on average while his 4-iron goes 225 yards and 5-iron 210 yards. Why gather data from an elite course where people line up to play when that is far from representative of what most people are doing? There are three finishes available in SM9: Tour Chrome (matte), Brushed Steel (shiny) and Jet Black (matte). This is something Im finding out at a 14 handicap. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Spin Rate - 2200 rpm[/background][/size][/color] Driver: Titleist TSi3 (10 degrees) Whats the proportion of shots wide of the mark by say 80 feet or more (or some width for which there is data) 2. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Shafts: True Temper Project X PXi, Wedges: Cobra Trusty Rusty (50, 55), Tour Trusty (60) On top of that it drew me feeling like unless I can hit it 250 every time and at least shoot in the low 90s from the Blue I might as well just give golf up. My longest drive was 270. I think the average student that I ask tells me that a tour player hits a 6 iron 220 yards. However, it is more the fact that golfers are playing courses that are too long relative to club speed and skill level. I carry my 8 iron about 158 yards when Im hitting it good (see above). They think that a drives are always over 320, which they are not not even close. That's what I think. A former tour pro told me he hit a tree branch off the tee that knocked his ball down, and it affected his average for the whole year by 15 yards. 913 HD I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. I recently had my swing analyzed and would like to share the results so that maybe someone could explain this in simpler terms. Trackman is pretty interesting, obviously path and angle of attack change depending on the shot your trying to shape. I bet your average golfer on your average course doesnt hit more than 160-175. Trackman stats obviously don't mean that much either. Its important to turn your body to get that extra speed. For as long as I can remember Vokey have been the top wedge brand in golf. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. Close suggestions Search Search Search Search I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. The pros, like the rest of us, will be hitting a driver as far as they can 99% of the time but when it comes to their 3-wood, 5-wood and hybrids they can be using those clubs off the tee and for approach shots and will not always be aiming for their maximum yardage with those clubs. Is it around 25-35% less than the AMA group?
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