It's true. Founded in 2000, Turbosquid has championed growth in the 3D space through partnerships with leaders in the industry. Thingiverse has allowed licenses to be transferred into another users name, which is very important option if you want to invent something and sell the ownership, else your stuck with it forever. The utopian view here is a successful merge of all related activities (or at least part), connecting as much people as possibly can that are doing something that could potentially involve 3D, and in doing so eventually streamline part of the global 3D marketplace and increase the amount of successful transactions between many possible parties. See the reputation, see the response rate, realise the problem will be fixed. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. If it is true that other sites are taking a higher margin and a larger slice of profit share, they have some kind of capital to work magic with, both with artists who are accepting less and buyers who are paying more. Often offer to buy the models in 1020 times more expensive than the price at which the model was exhibited for sale. I had a conversation with Eduardas he confirmed that they will improve the feedback system. Ts has always been an overly expensive service and its not that good at all compare to its cost. (this would be the core of the human sorting out system). (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. Besides how about your right to fair trade? Just my opinion, but look at homepage. Hopefully that would make squids to react. The next thing CGT needs to do is get in with Ebay, Amazon, walmart etc places where everyone buys not just 3D enthusiasts and that regular people trust with their money. Been over 17 years with TS. A few months went by with my models offline and during that time my GCt sales gradually went up at a level consistent with the few sales I had left behind on Ts so I just deleted all my models at Ts. If you continue to price your models higher on TurboSquid, you will will not be able to publish your content on TurboSquid, and we will temporarily take your current models offline. We initially did the 3D printing focused homepage after noticing that CG customers skip the homepage and come directly to product page, mostly knowing exactly what they need for their projects, while 3D printing customers need more direction and inspiration, so that even non-professionals can discover this new industry. We all agree that CGT is the better site and needs to win the fight but we all need to reach out to the really influential people and make sure they start promoting the site or we won't win. A battle is going on right now, and some top sellers are going full #SquidClan with a custom deal from the Wisdoms: a 5-6 digit $ amount in instant cash now as an advance of a 2 year exclusivity deal, plus a boost of their royalties at the expense of all the other "non-top" sellers at Turbosquid that won't be getting any offer from Matt Wisdom. Most people say you get more sales at Turbosquid than any other 3D marketplace, so even if you get a much lower royalty % in the end you get more money, and while this is true up to a point (NOT x80 sales in any case), what most people don't realize is what happens IF your products are NOT in Turbosquid but you continue to sell in other marketplaces and have a bit of patience. http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/d7b76144-43db-4cbe-b27b-8ea42b3a7cb0/TurboSquid_Low_Sales.png I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. Uploading new product is so much more intuitive and easier than TS. That is the most important reason for them to be on CGTrader and it is essential to reward them for helping artist and the site earn money! For some people with experience that did the math taking all factors in count (not talking about just NoneCG, of course) it was crystal clear since many years ago. - Limiting, perhaps, the number of objects that can be uploaded in a row, to avoid having the front page confiscated by a single seller when ticking the "newest" filter. If I narrow to "man", it's even worse : 64 out of 128 models displayed are scanned 3d models. $300 + (280) $200 to $300 (315) $100 to . On "woman", print-ready jewels and scanned models again come in the way. That definitely wasn't me hoe said that turbo. Hopefully this will start another interesting discussion . I was ,,Diamond ,, since 2008, they stole items and they never gave me the money . etc IMHO that is main area where CGT must up their game significantly. Thanks for your feedback, it really makes sense. In place already. I really think that a "designer good practices charter" or something like that could help. my main income its still TS. I mean the good/bad rating left by buyers. Basically just like Turbosquid has done they have become the one stop shop for everything. I like this site more, because, firstly, it has a much more pleasant and understandable interface, gives a higher percentage of the sale (on a TS, it looks more like a tip if you are not a member of their club), and generally it works more stable. Agree with every word above. I think this game can only be won by the best community building force and that is CGt. Show more, By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, max, fbx, blend, uasset, tbscene and more, obj, fbx, unitypackage, prefab, mat and more. I hope it goes well for cgtrader i really like this page :-). http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/96a1c5f2-d18b-4e5c-ab3c-01bd5189b9ca/TurboSquid_Monopoly.png All because of search. Turbosquid has terrible royalty rates You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. In my personal opinion TS is working very hard towards buyers and exploits sellers as much as they can, well except few chosen ones, while CGT is taking great care about sellers, but leaving buyers somewhat aside. Hi guys, thanks so much for your very valuable comments, they are much appreciated and we are very happy to work with you in order to make CGTrader the best place for 3D designers! So the wonderful conversion work/time spend of this individual could have helped him to get a complete refund, and the two others, (hoe I have send off here) would also have been helped whit a nice maya file, and I would have sold at least two more models (Everyone would benefit). Turbosquid is basically a pyramid scheme for the most part unless you are established and have been in the top rank for many years. They call that "3D Industry" on the download report .. it's rare but it's happend (one time for me) Over the years they have shown me that they really care about we think about the way things should be run and they have been adapting the website based on our combined ideas. It is the best RR in the world ! We made this limitation to protect our designers from leechers who download hundreds of free models and then try to monetize them in some other way. When you just start out you have to price your models at 1 dollar or give them away for free but the second you start selling well they take your models offline and force you to raise your prices Once you raise your prices nobody buys and you are back to square 1. Like time spent on searching models or ability to get profesional support 24/7. Maybe there is something behind the scenes what you can't know or can't tell? Sales site defending exclusivity trying to find ways to seduce (like the famous CheckMate) but this has no return. Hello. A real pointless task. I have been very active on a forum of a different 3D model store, but the guys running it seemed to be ignorant about the issue. The longing to justice is something that cannot be eradicated, the hole of human history shows that clearly. And i cannot take care for piracy or stolen models because the 3d stuff will go in piracy anyways, doensnt matter the platform it comes from. You said you have considered closing your store here, I get that but why not just keep it up? I'm done with them. We had the experience of a 3d modeling agents (UKW) stealing our models before and stopped selling with them, from there on we put a small signature on each model. @tomislavveg, that is very true, but as marvimation already mentioned, CGT first have to draw those buyers to its web, otherwise there's not much use from all those benefits if there's no buyers who could reap them :]. I can't download that lamp and see it's quality myself - so why would I purchase anything from the creator when I don't know if I'll be satisfied? It is pretty difficult to find what you want but if you are only looking for free models then CGTrader's search engine is far better than Turbosquid. Turbosquid is butt ugly and greedy, I hope when CG gets bigger than TS, they don't end up the same way. At the moment i think its more a community of sellers and not so much of buyers. To me this was a sign that people know about CGt and that users have at least two accounts. At the time my CGt account was not performing so well and it enforced that belief (it was probably due to longer presence and better position on Ts and new on CGt). Alhamdulillah, we finished making the car! In 2020, I've opened a CGT account and start selling interesting 3D Models. CGtrader is everything Ts is not, CGtader is fair, its open and communicative in all directions, its an inexpensive service, its new and more efficient, has lots of exiting tools, have more sales and get to keep bigger part, its growing fast, its updating and improving fast, etc, etc,. So true! - Crowdfunding to improve the CGtrader presence in the market. This would allow genuine potential buyers to check the quality of models. Guys really have the potential to screw greedy monopoly and earn some decent position on the market. It's sad cgtrader promote only printing models and forget about regular models. Personally, I will never sign up to exclusive contracts, others should always get chances to maybe offer better job if they can. bye for now and be well Will and Mr Data :) :]. User experience and User interface is much better to manage your store, and higher royalty. or do you prefer to do business with companies you trust and feel comfortable working with while knowing you are supporting a #FairBusiness model that in the future will revert in your own direct benefit? I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. I was stunned to get informed there was no fraud protection (yes people, you pay 60% cut and get no fraud protection). https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/landmark/notre-dame-de-paris-cathedral-61d97afb1b1a62861673c23f15b75c12, All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. In other countries like China film production is far better funded so perhaps CGTrader could try opening it's doors to Hong Kong film studios etc Japan is also far better funded and in fact Turbosquid is also selling models on the Japanese market. Adult Female Jessy Rigged 3D Model 9. In fact, any properly textured model over 5000 polys for less than 15 bucks is NOT okay, and does NOT look professional at all. We left TS account and getting occasional spam regarding the prices from them. (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). I really enjoy the chance to get to know other people's opinions and experiences regarding how they sell, network and do business and that is something I have only been able to do here on CGT. Nice try. That's just an easy question to answer 1. I'm glad CGtrader and its community of supporters is able to make this situation come to an end. They do not deserve that I fed them 60% Think about the best online stores today when people search for lamps on Amazon they will only find lamps in their search and that is why they keep buying on Amazon because it is a highly efficient and professional site where the buyers don't get lost or frustrated looking for what they want and can spend their time searching for the best quality product based on their budget. I deleted my products here and joined sguild again, no reason for staying here. Yep.. The paypal commission is paid 2 times - 1 when the model is bought, 2 times - when money is paid to the seller. You have to choose a category to get a refresh. Even when Ts would sell more models it does not mean they serve you well, because it is not. On Ts we get served for extreme large cost and rather badly frankly said. I wont be using TurboSquid due to their royalty system and the fact that I would have to hunt down non-existing forms to prove I am not an American resident and thus avoid paying 30% govt. They lie about your rights on Turbosquid. I'm planing to start new discussion on this topic in near future, so i won't go into details here, i'll just ask did anybody tried to enter same keywords in TS and CGT search field? i like the points system on cg trader . Here at CGtrader you can do all of that and much much more which is awesome!! https://garagedoorrepairnewportnews.com/garage-door-spring-repair/, Hey, High hopes for Cgtrader. We previously sent you final warnings about your non-compliance with our Best Prices policy. Another point in favor cgtrader is that the royalties and buy a model possible in the payment system WebMoney. The problem is that the site is not able to get a clear separation between CG and 3D printing. Reputation for promptly fixing problems? I sell fantasy-themed miniature models, and uploaded most of my then-current catalogue (consisting entirely of my original work) to Turbosquid only to have over half of it taken down a week later. (These stats can be confirmed as true by CGtrader staff, we have no problem with that). Offering customers best prices on TurboSquid is mandatory for all artists publishing on TurboSquid. [quote]1. Turbosquid just has it backwards. The title says it all!1. One of the biggest problems in this country is that the games and film studios are becoming a bit of a joke and not getting the funding they used to have. I guess CGTrader should send out advertising to the companies, but I'm sure they are doing/done it already. Currently on a tight budget, would lose a substantial cut to pay for software licenses and hardware. (Edge BUT this is still not as infuriating as a personal account falling once a month with all the statistics! Others download beautiful jpeg or tiff files to set as their desktop wallpapers at the office. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). Ps. While there is some sellers that naively think they can rely on Turbosquid's good will to improve their situation in the future, the rest of us should be start working together towards a collective benefit. Is the same for me as everyone else. Part of it is because they don't want to get scammed. And it is convenient for the buyer and profitable for the seller. CGtrader is founded upon the best ideas and the people hoe believe in it and keep supporting it no matter what and hard work and determination always win. This conversation has me glued to my monitor, all very well spoken and nailed down to the core. Turbosquid.com4. [http://www.google.com google5 ] My initial idea was that Ts had some clients that do not know anything outside of Ts. Payout fees are just fractions of percent, not worth to consider. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/woman/female-hand-realistic https://www . I agree that these two parts - CG and 3D printing should be split at least externally/ visually. Term of Use on www.turbosquid.com. To bad this place is ridiculously expensive, you only get 33% of your sales. Thingiverse remains the king for licensing, as you can transfer the licence within the site. I see no point in closing when you might as well keep it open and get a couple sales. because CGTrader team quickly investigate and decided to remove the bad Feeback. Ts indeed was able to maneuver into a very dominant position regarding the Autodesk partnership, allot of us are very familiar with that place because of it. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. If you have any questions about these. Yes indeed! what you say doesn't make any sense because CGTrader has a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all models as far as I know. Renderer: Cyclse. adentonclark is 100 percent correct in this regard! And something ells , I have seen people criticize the young inexperienced and even blame them to some point for some negative experiences over here. And precisely here is where I think resides the greater problem. Of course Matt Wisdom was disoriented and he was associated with Pixel SQUID bankruptcy. @interate CGI . TS going down. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader I see what you mean but I think it depends on how you are covering markets. Gumroad is an awesome virtual marketplace where artists can create their own store and sell any type of digital asset, from textures to tutorial series. The entire way of setting up your model seems backwards and chaotic. And I've done the same thing on Turbosquid, in the same period of time. I'm really happy to see CGTrader growing. Although I agree the presentation of CGtraders home page is heavily focused at 3D printing, NoneCG did not suffer ANY drop in sales. No frankly, it's a bloody mystery. I also think, as iterateCGI, the market control based on exclusivity will soon disappear. The motivation to backlink and make marketing efforts for the own store (and the collective trademark ad the same time) would probable also increase. just needs more publicity.. us designers need to market the site with our products at the rate one of my designs is going ill have more facebook likes/shares than the website itself has on one design Yes, sometimes your points are not displayed for a day or two, but there were problems with the rating of models. So part of the problem would probably be solved if a buyer would indeed get reputation points for buying models and gain more access in the process. More specifically, the 3D Model may not be exported or sold. I like, CG Trader is ascent. I left all but . Remember The3DStudio? In fact I hope that once buyers begin to see the difference in quality on this site they will jump ship but the thing that still trips up CGTrader is the consumer confidence. (I forgot to put TS up). Personally, I felt I in no way infringed on said IP. From point of buyer who wants to buy a classic 3D model (cg) there is no way I will start searching on cgtrader. So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. They should make more effort to advertise. However, I will agree that sales here aren't as good as TS. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader [/quote] tax on top of a high 60% that TS keeps. Selling 3D models on Ebay or Amazon would probably generate problems? So just to be constructive (and this will be my last post here, because I don't want to hijack the thread anymore, here are some ideas : I did not know about that. Free3d.com7. 3D stock would have main subs like architectural, medical, automotive, etc). The people at the top of the pyramid scheme bully all the new modelers who show any sales success because they barely scrape by as it is so it is really bad work environment to work for Turbosquid is not worth your time. "that is where the big money can be", being able to part with an invention has value. I tested it with golden palace, clothing and various hair, other textures, they all worked fine August 22, 2022 at 6:03 am #1859211 Sabrina Participant Rank: @Goblyn Glad you enjoy it! still turbosquid has the most paying clients. - Guides/Tips for sellers regarding prices/quality to minimize the undercutters problem. See this GFXHub where you needed to pay a fee before you could download 3d models of Humster3d, Turbosquid and many other. As long as CGtrader and Marius keep leading the inclusive marketplaces with respect for the Artists and their own branding, we at NoneCG will continue to support CGtrader and Marius indefinitely, no extra shiny coins needed for us. I tried to contact the buyer several times with no response. I would like to see similar stats from other sellers, but CGtrader has been the 3D marketplace with the higher increase in sales for us without a doubt. Sometimes 3D model can have some errors, or it was not 100% what buyer had imagined it will be. This is inherently due to the fact that computers are still very bad when it comes to optimization processes, human brains are far more superior in sorting out things. This used to be the case in TS as well, but the issue is being solved, this will have to happen here on CGTrader as well. Anyway, there is still some ocasional Turbosquid fanboy that bashes CGtrader and promotes Turbosquid in public forums and social media while writes this in TS forums at the same time: No, I don't think it's just about SEO. And it offers a more strategic dimension. The last handful of successful high end 3D studios still buy those models because they know that the scenes have to be clean, geometry has no odd manifold or abnormal issues and the modelers have to jump through all kinds of hoops to ensure the quality of the model including providing high quality 360 renders. To me it feels like he is amongst us and we are performing a team effort. If you look around on the net on all the various forums everyone always mentions Turbosquid be it positively or negatively. Spider-Man (Rig) for Maya Shaders is a new section that we recently added. I make very nice sale here, and several each month, not as much as TurboSquid, but with 85% royalties I'm not complaining. (e.g. But for the rest i do like the way cgtrader functions, more royalty rate, easy uploading and a community forum and job board. "TurboSquid Support, Jun 20, 08:14 SST: My price at the time was same both on Ts as on CGt but after some time position on CGt got better and sales was picking up. They're doing competitions, and that attracts artists, at least. Your account is not in CGtrader and I can't see your models, and judging by the link in your comment you are just a spammer. I agree structural arrangements need to be done to support this bud it needs to be done in a way so it supports the main axiom of openness. Then we're all back at Square one again. They don't allow you to communicate with the customer, with Turbosquid support acting as a "human firewall" (and a bad one) that is constantly supervising every interaction to ensure that Turbosquid always gets the best outcome (and neither the seller nor the customer). See ourPrivacy Policyfor more information. It still remains a puzzle to me, were those few now actually using their CGt account because there was no other way or did I just lose those and just gained some new clients from somewhere ells? The basic approach would be that every user start with a selection of a store template (including own label option and menu creation capability's) and starts filling his store with own products and products found in the large collective database. The clients like to waste money for a more expensive model at TSquid, perhaps knowing that the artist will get shafted with a measly 40% return, and that's that. - Fixing some guidelines to upload quality models (at least assuring that obj models, for instance, if textured, should have a proper .mtl file, limiting the models to quads/tris, imposing materials and textures to have understandable names, etc. I like how there is no join up fee. Just uploading on turbosquid is a pain in the butt. Regarding response time, i respond to my buyers within 10 minutes unless im in bed and someone from other part of the world is trying to reach me. My friend didn't get any support. CG Trader is easier to navigate, more stimulating perhaps than turbo squid. And CG Trader offers up to 94% royalty rate, where as Turbo Squid gives I believe 60% royalty rate CG Trader more open than Turbo Squid, and when registering, requires less personal information. Care to share your time machine? They can present the model screenshots straight from their helpdesk and ensure the client is not being screwed? That is why I like to use Apple as the example of preference. Due to its royalty politic and complex registration process, I've finally stopped selling 3D models on TS. That takes longer time. It takes way too long to put up any files. You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. CGt embraces all modern communication technologies which is critical to establish such a place. They have a CheckMate program which gives you a higher percentage back from selling your model. A man can dream on :]. Maybe they would understand that sellers can't be treated as slaves. Maybe they have a much deeper interaction with the clients? This place is indeed different and allot closer to what we actually need, I can't imagine the core principal on witch this place is founded would change as it will prove to be the one and only way to be future proof in this supper connected world. I have noticed that a lot of artists are moving to Asia to find jobs where they are far better respected and paid what they are worth. I started uploading some of my items to cg trader to see if it generated any income but as I have 70+ items and 0 sales I have decided to stop. I'm a bit afraid there's always going to be issues that leaves this community divided, leaving CGpeople with a platform not able to live up to its full potential and leaving 3D print people with a platform not living up to its full potential either. i think they both have there place . I can think up multiple scenarios to try get a grip on it but I don't actually care anymore. I have to agree. We've been on TS over 20 years and on CG trader since their start. But i think CGT nows that pretty well, that's why they decided to bring changes in royalty policy and hopefully they will steer additional cash flow towards making this stock market more attractive to the buyers.
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