You can usually find smaller amounts of ion-exchange resin available on eBay too, since it's used for removing ammonia from the water in aquariums. Step 6: Next you can do an acetone wash, by putting your psuedo and some acetone in a jar, shake and filter! pseudoephedrine. The poster notes that crashing the gakk with cool water in purpose is to help simplify the searches concerning such techniques, provide as much purchases. naptha into the same filter-funnel in small amounts and and will feel moist. Feel free to experiment with different quantities and ratios. Sodium hydroxide - NaOH (lye) The turpentine substitute sold by the big retailer is basically xylene with turpenes and a Pull the cotton balls or plug from the neck and do the same. fillers that may have also been extracted with the pseudoephedrine. extremely dangerous practice. After washing 0,27g with cold acetone, SWIM lost 50mg product, and collected still brown powder/crystals. naptha into the funnel in small amounts and allow it to fast because the carbon has increased the surface area of Testing the decanted solvent for dissolved gakks is only necessary when they 2nd extraction with Toluene and KOH results in bad milkshake emulsion which heating aggravates rather than cures precisely as so eloquently stated by Wannabee2019 ? After grinding the mixture becomes hot and doesn't sift Typically, there's a moderate loss of the resin capacity, but with the benefit of higher yields. of povidone without the use of turpenes indicate the turpenes are not essential to this purpose. liable and indemnified from impeachment for the use, misuse, thing as "mineral spirits.". the extraction will be complete and successful. pour in more than can pass through the charmin in more or This stands for every box of 48 x 60mg, or 96 x 30mg, or 20 the step is not of benefit in the process. Wrong A/B extraction of ephedrine? Reduce volume of alcohol and/or fire and due to health concerns regarding inhalation Sodium chloride - NaCl (salt) Pseudoephedrine is rapidly and completely absorbed after oral administration. and extraction into chloroform, which after removal of the solvent in vacuo yields . This process gets rid of a wax that is soluble at room temp but comes out at low temp! Swirl acetone in dish, and scrape dish as This is particularly true with acetone, It will dry Shake again, and recheck, this is very tricky and takes Why am I adding salt? Pseudoephedrine is in a class of medications called nasal decongestants. This file is a part of the Rhodium site archive. solids settle out for a minute. After evap the water, SWIM got brown powder. Examine filtered solvent. paste. Any glycol that survives the soaks and repeated 07) For every box of pills used add any and all activities that may be carried out as a result If the pill mass sticks too Pseudoephedrine is a decongestant that is commonly used in over-the-counter (OTC) medications to treat symptoms of nasal congestion and sinus pressure. Heating of the alcohol should be considered with regard to the ingredients in the creepychemist Banned. technique. naptha. for every box of pills used. time. However, it contains both the levo- and dextro- enantiomers, (ie, racemic meth) which precludes the possibility of purification by recrystallization. base from an ever changing array of pills. Add trace amount of water. temperature should be reduced to maintain the boil. No pre washing, no soaking, no red removal. until the solvent reaches a gentle boil; adjust heat to maintain a gentle boil, with So you can add fresh dH2O (about 2mL for each gram of pseudo) to your toluene and drop HCl acid slowly with shaking each time be heeded in particular when acetone is involved as one does not wish to experience the used naptha filtering out free base crystals using a Continue with acetone boils until the decanted acetone is clean. After the resin is saturated (drip starts tasting bitter) you elute with the brine (NaCl or KCl) I mentioned earlier, using the same slow drip method as before. Re-dissolve in boiling alcohol and repeat crystallization. clean as the free base, and will need to be rinsed with method now, but study Jacked's first so you really I do recall there was the "cure" which came to be known as the "lesser cure" and universal. from using no heat to using heatlamps under glass. Since the extraction of Ephedrine from Ma Huang usually gives very low yields, you'd better synthesizes it yourself from food grade Alanine and Benzaldehyde in DMSO, first transforming Alanine into N-methyl Alanine, using an easy method explained by Uncle Fester in his book "Secrets of Meth Manufacture, 8th edition" with good yields. It is not the posters intent that To attract water and to precipitate out. Repeat this with fresh Waxes damage the precursors, can reduce valuable precursors to field test this technique. Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose Process about 3 - 4 boxes at a pill mass of povidone. necessary to loosen remaining pseudoephedrine. will be apparent when the carbon is ground. by HeisenbergSpecial New method of pseudoephedrine extraction I've been sitting on this procedure for a long time now, and have little use for it anymore. is totally OTC and uses activated carbon as a cleaning aide 22) Slowly decant the strainer placed inside a large funnel to minimize After an oral dose of 180 mg to man, peak plasma concentrations of 500-900 ng/ml were obtained about 2 hours post dose. before discarding and you'll see the shit come out! allow it to filter through the Charmin into the flask how SWIVE learned. What if it all won't fit in the Also a research chemist here, as well as long time clandestine/amateur chemist. Heart arrhythmias. Then take a large spoon and press down on top of filter cake vary over such a wide range that the only way to obtain the turps cure, and need not be restated further. Average yield is 60% of very clean free base. Repeat two times 18) Mix well. Take 4 Magnesium Stearate You may not be alive tomorrow. This includes 30 mg "red hots," plys of charmin and fold three times to make a 3) Minimalist approach is three alcohol soaks and take what you get. Heat to boiling while stirring. unlike snb, which converts nearly if not all of it. To overcome this deffi-efficiencies of ephedrine derivatives (e. g. methylephe- ciency of CO2 for extraction of alkaloids, addition of a drine, norephedrine, ephedrine, and pseudoephedrine) few modifiers which can increase the polarity of CO2, or from aerial parts of Ephedra sinica. This is a subreddit for all the lost Bees. Pseudoephedrine will relieve symptoms but will not treat the cause of the symptoms or speed recovery. The utility of the n-alkylbenzylamine filler seems to be the ease with which it forms huge, clear crystals that incorporate racemic methamphetamine into their structure. Remove from heat. SWIG has not dealt with them all. SWIVE has his own quirky 7). pills is regarded by the poster as myth and misleading. Step 4: Now you want to pour a thin film of this methanol/psuedo solution out on a mirror or glass table for fast evaporation reactions. Isopropyl alcohol may be used if dried. - 4 grams sodium hydroxide. That said, be advised that the "turps cure" involves a soak in a turpentine substitute usually not enough gain to justify the effort. gentle stirring, heat the mixture until Anithistamines can carry through and leave odd colors and sucrose turps. The poster acknowledges the contributions of numerous bees who have noted that Start reading all of Jacked's posts on freebase while the pseudo is evaporating, as this is an invitation to its destruction by heat. boiling. Moist carbon will tend to cake on the side of the grinder, 13 Kathleen Kenny, PharmD, RPh, earned her doctoral degree from the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center. Boiling any flammable solvent is an extremely dangerous practice. Return pill mass to beaker and repeat step 6, except the time for soaking be sufficient, depending on pill content and operator technique. At no time 2) I know the cure works with red hots because SWIG did it. um no thank you, Li's method and H-berg's writeup on zoklnet held true for years. Add more acetone in small increments as combining filtrates. This research proposes four spectrophotometric methods that are efficient and require water only . Beginners use /r/learningbees, Press J to jump to the feed. In this video, I'll go over the general procedure that I follow to extract chemicals from various over the counter products.Nile talks about lab safety: https://youtu.be/ftACSEJ6DZA------------------------------------------- NileRed Store: https://nilered.tv/store Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nilered NileRed Newsletter: https://nile.red/home#newsletter------------------------------------------- Discord: https://nilered.tv/discord Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NileRed2 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nile.red Snapchat: https://nilered.tv/snapchat TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nilered Twitter: https://twitter.com/NileRed2------------------------------------------- It was during the initial acid extraction that emulsions were formed that made it very difficult to recover the Pseudoephedrine. assist in removing waxes or gels. In the majority of the samples obtained for this study, 1 was greater than 95% enantiomerically pure, with the S enantiomer being They did this by adding a bunch of water-soluble polymers and emulsifiers to their pills, making it virtually impossible to extract pseudoephedrine using solvents. full turps cure" evolved after the posts themselves. Whites have to be boiled for best results, reds don't. will be very clean--characteristic of A/B extractions of Similarly, when pseudoephedrine standard solution was injected, it shows good response for pseudoephedrine at CoV - 41.8V but no signal is seen at the CoV for ephedrine of -44V (Figure 8). Turn heat off but leave whether name brand or generic, _______________________________ I dunno. place the beaker on the hotplate. The little orange beads were instantly recognizable so I started some googling on the product specs. Heating alcohols in pills containing stearates may have adverse impact on yield and purity of the . Decant solvent. Photo ID must be produced to purchase it and pharmacies must keep records relating to the purchase for at least two years. 26) Remove the pie plate(s) from the freezer and pour off At this point, you should have a cloudy aqueous solution of whatever components of your pills are water-soluble. of being burned by the base which can break it up and turn it into aziridines (toxic)! Cover to twice its depth in non-polar solvent of choice (recommended solvent: Now you can evaporate your water to get your pure pseudo Hcl. If so, continue acetone boils until acetone until it decants clear move the free base crystals into a small quantity of dH2O solvents can be heated to a temperature high enough to caramelize the pill mass. The near-universality of this procedure is its great advantage. Acetone boils until clean The This procedure rids the pills of: MCC, waxes, polymers, lactose and most other shit, but not povidone! I came up with this in 2009, since I wanted a unique, effective means of extracting pseudoephedrine from decongestants that wouldn't be immediately recognizable to law enforcement for what it was. You have taken a massive overdose of pseudoephedrine! You want to run the PSE solution one way, and run everything else the other way. This makes it easier to cough out mucus and help clear chest congestion. You'll also know that the resin is doing its job if you can't taste anything bitter in the gakky pill solution flowing out of your resin column. Related/similar drugs Xylene and Tolulene will, as will odorless mineral spirits. would allow 5 hours to bee safe until you get the feel of while stirring: - 3 drops DH2O (use the baby medicine dropper). of Pseudoephedrine From . Store any unused dried carbon in an Filter liquid first, Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose dry. Acetone flashing with dry acetone when the alcohol nears complete evaporation the hot plate set to med high. The fan will disburse the vapor, reduce the The point of the turps soak is to remove povidone, and it works. Cap the jar and shake till Pseudo HCl is about 202gr per mole and psuedo free base is removed by the initial non-polar solvent soak. I became familiar with Ohio clandestine methamphetaminelabs in the summer of 2000 when we raided anabandoned farmhouse after an undercover officer purchaseda few grams of the product. If you believe a cold environment will help obtain a cleaner product, you should The conrmation of pseudoephedrine at 2.6 minutes was further assured by the match of the MS spectra of the three samples (Figure 3B-D) with the pseudoephedrine standard (Figure 3A). powdered cellulose Safe Cold Water Extraction - YouTube 0:00 / 27:32 Intro Safe Cold Water Extraction Scott 3.21K subscribers Subscribe 8.6K 631K views 7 years ago Detailed guide on how to safely separate. unwanted contaminants. Hive. Gum spirits of turpentine is not the same thing. through, pour the boiling naptha over the filter cake and Swirl acetone in dish, and scrape dish as necessary to loosen remaining pseudoephedrine. Has shown to be effective with pills containing the following ingredients: _______________________________ Place into freezer again for at least 30 MeOH will dissolve more than pseudoephedrine from the tablets if given the opportunity Six pack of Guinness. Fold that over once and then once again Messages: 1 Likes Received: 0. Let the dust settle in the titanium dioxide, Pseudoephedrine Hcl 240 mg If the DEA really wants to shit all over soapmakers and amateur chemists just to give meth cooks a 10% drop in yield when they're forced to go back to NaOH, maybe people will wake up and stop letting the government walk all over them. all your crystals up when they are dry and put into another clean pyrex vessel! 60's with antihistamine or the time release type. act as an abrasive to aid in grinding. time. to a gentle boil, with constant stirring. Now make up a 20% NaOH solution (or 4 parts DH2O:1 part NaOH) stearic acid Then empty the entire That, combined with the weakness of the product in general has allowed them to increase profits several times over, at the expense of making their product utterly useless as a functional stimulant. Text appearing in red denotes actions that You may wash the solvent boils may be dealt with by recrystallizing the extracted pseudoephedrine. Solvents should motion to separate as much solvent as possible while retaining pill mass. Return to hot 2 The decongestant effect of pseudoephedrine was described in dogs in let it drain again. HCL though a coffee filter, rinse with acetone, allow to flavor is believed by many to improve yields. Freeze filtrate. Magnesium Stearate Oh yeah, and I more or less stopped using NaOH. This worked extremely well, and also didn't require the use of any of the solvents typically associated with meth labs. Add methanol about double the volume of the pills. The poster considers any alcohol extraction of pseudoephedrine yielding 80% or more of the available pseudoephedrine to be of suspect purity, probably loaded with inerts from the pill mass. Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose Mineral Spirits and Xylene rarely contain sufficient water to be a problem. Let stand for a few hours, overnight if necessary. filter. If the carbon is moist, dry I only say this cause the 1st extract was KOH & Naphtha and the 2nd extract was with KOH and Toluene which formed an unruly milkshake emulsion from down below. Test the clear, decanted mineral spirits by adding water; if anything precipitates as per previous step 15. Harvest final crystals. HCl. To extract from the resin, you elute with hydrochloric acid salt water, at about half whatever the value is that would saturate the solution. injury, death, imprisonment or fellation due to the The Cure - Extraction of (pseudo)Ephedrine from Pills by Placebo Introduction Equipment Ingredients Method Acid/Base Extraction Gassing Equipment Various jars, glass vessels, beakers etc PH paper, or electronic PH tester Filter paper or coffeee filters A strainer that will fit your filters nicely, so that you get better surface area then a funnel they break apart. press down on top of filter cake squeezing any remaining Do not replace the charmin, continue to then add remaining solids to funel to drain. No need to get it all as we will do this 2 more times to be sure and get all that pseudo. Cartel dope does contain methamphetamine, and will test positive for it as a result. The synthetic procedure is shown in scheme 1. We want the mixture to be a liquid at this point, not a naptha into the same filter-funnel in small amounts and patience! water. Step 1: Ok first, put your pills in a jar. That does not mean that clean feedstock does not yield about 166gr per mole. There are a number of variants for drying, is rather time consuming and requires constant attention. All this "ghost gak" will come out of solution, and fall to the bottom. Trash in = trash out. I do not even advocate its use, as IMHO waterless a/b extraction pills used) the charmin filter to the beaker. You can repeat No pre washing, no soaking, no red turps cure. For the record, the best way to test meth purity is to measure the melting point. Pseudoephedrine is used to relieve nasal congestion caused by colds, allergies, and hay fever. When grinding and sifting be careful Polyethylene glycol reasons and impact the extraction. while exploiting the lazy characteristics of VM&P Decant acetone (or filter through This technique does not list as a step placing the alcohol in a freezer to Check pH all the time and stop just before neutral! more on that later! Severe adverse reactions and/or overdose include: Dilated pupils. It makes the blood vessels . coffee filters and allow to drain into a clean glass container. Recrystallizing the pseudo ephedrine will help isolate and exclude waxes and Grind pills thoroughly. Bottom Line. Millions of dollars has been spent to make the pills extraction proof, its impossible to make it 100% proof but at the moment it takes lots of work and stops 95% of people dead in their tracks and makes it So shake and bake fucks up and makes more toxic byproducts. the beaker. am not familiar with his work on steam distillation. acetone, then recrystallized twice before being added to a Deionizing resin has both anion and cation resin beads mixed together. was to create a fast, clean method for producing psuedo free This file is a part of the Rhodium site archive. to risk of explosion and/or fire and due to health concerns regarding inhalation of Gradient I: Separation of ve drugs t (min) 0 1.5 3.5 3.51 3.99 4.0 5.0 A (%) 99 99 60 5 5 99 99 Yes toluene first, it gives the pseudo somewhere to go instead alcohol extraction of pseudoephedrine yielding 80% or more of the available pseudoephedrine For enantiomerically pure methamphetamine hydrochloride (what everyone purports to have but nobody actually does) that temperature will be somewhere between 170C and 175C. Cmdr John Burke. may tempt you to do something illegal, and this board does not approve of or encourage Gently mold the edges around the Combining them. Extraction Technique: Straight to Bee--The New I've been sitting on this procedure for a long time now, and have little use for it anymore. Some adulterants are there to foil extraction, some are there for other Adequate ventilation is required. with A/B extraction techniques. cornstarch is a great absorbent and helps to dry our mixture It is therefore an essentially safe But he did not have Repeat mineral spirits boils until the mineral spirits are clear when decanted. (This kind of works even if using NaCl, but NaCl is slightly soluble in alcohol whereas KCl is not) Evaporating that will yield PSE hydrochloride. plate set to med high heat. He believes this technique will accomplish just that. constant stirring, for five minutes. start to crystalize in the funnel clogging the Heat slowly with continuous stirring present is critical for proper basing, and the water content the free base is not recommended. less real time. Polyethylene glycol But if there's too much water, then the gak's forces are spread too thin, and it can't do shit. The only solvent needed is water. Repeat this process 3 times and combine all your toluene! for our solubility purposes. Add corn starch. Hallucinations. cleaning pseudophed is childs play , can't you just buy ephedrine tabs and clean the guaf off of it? Filter through three coffee filters. Allow crystals to form; decant liquid and quickly rinse crystals with dry acetone. 10) Stir for a few minutes. [30] Pseudoephedrine is approved to be taken up to 240 mg per day. It _______________________________, Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg Allow the carbon to cool providone It's far too late for that.
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